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VRT manifolds: ATP v. Kinetic

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Looking for input from someone who has taken a good look at both, maybe even side by side. The Kinetic unit looks to have more defined runners but I'm not sure if the ATP one is similar on the inside or not. Also the Kinetic has relief cutouts on the flange, which seems like a good idea to me. However, the ATP unit looks like it would retain more heat due to the greater mass (but also be heavier). Lastly, do they both position the turbo in the same place, or is the Kinteic a little lower (looks so in pics).

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